--- Day changed Wed Jun 13 2018 00:17 --> dotcomboom has joined #neocities 00:18 dotcomboom>: yoooo 00:22 <hosma>: eyy 00:26 <mariteaux>: heyo 00:26 <dotcomboom>: and the party continues 00:26 <dotcomboom>: woo 00:44 <mariteaux>: so how's it going 00:44 <dotcomboom>: g r a n d 00:45 <dotcomboom>: listening to tasty music on audacious with a winamp skin 00:46 <dotcomboom>: soothing to my ears 00:46 <mariteaux>: never got the winamp bug 00:46 <mariteaux>: i always had more nostalgia for wmp9, and as a serious player, i use itunes on mac 00:48 <dotcomboom>: I didn't really either, even though CompuServe came with it I didn't know what it was and never used it 00:48 <dotcomboom>: (I think) 00:48 <dotcomboom>: if not that then one of our old HP computers came with it 00:48 <mariteaux>: yeah 00:50 <mariteaux>: i'd still love to see a modern player with those wmp visualizations though 00:50 <mariteaux>: i can stare at any of the ambience ones for hours 00:50 <dotcomboom>: oh yeah 00:50 <dotcomboom>: windows media player was the bomb 00:50 <mariteaux>: http://wmpvis.wikia.com/wiki/Ambience i can't believe this is a real fucking thing, who would make this wiki 00:50 <mariteaux>: plenoptic was the shit too 00:51 <mariteaux>: fire and brimstone 00:51 <mariteaux>: but to my music 00:51 <dotcomboom>: I wonder how the Media Guide was implemented in the versions that came with ME upward until at least 7 00:52 <mariteaux>: wasn't it always just a browser window 00:52 <mariteaux>: in the application itself 00:52 <dotcomboom>: basically 00:52 <dotcomboom>: it might be possible to make it go to another page 00:52 <mariteaux>: yeah some hosts file trickery most likely 00:54 <dotcomboom>: kind of curious of how the internet radio was implemented, m3u or something like that 00:55 <mariteaux>: yeah, sounds about right 00:55 <mariteaux>: streaming audio was weird, i dunno what else was out there aside from realplayer 00:56 <dotcomboom>: "One common use of the M3U file format is creating a single-entry playlist file pointing to a stream on the Internet" 00:56 <dotcomboom>: -wikipedia 00:56 <mariteaux>: ah 00:56 <mariteaux>: i was trying to think of how viable a media guide would be nowadays 00:56 <mariteaux>: and i don't think it'd be 00:56 <mariteaux>: i don't like the way the internet is going at all 00:56 <mariteaux>: social media scares me 00:56 <mariteaux>: getting everything in one place 00:56 <mariteaux>: seems way too easy 00:56 <dotcomboom>: yep 00:57 <dotcomboom>: a country of walled-gardens 00:58 <mariteaux>: i don't think it can last 00:58 <mariteaux>: maybe not by choice 01:08 <dotcomboom>: Facebook might be the new AOL 01:08 <dotcomboom>: America Online stuffed a ton of services under one thing 01:08 <mariteaux>: see, the freaky part is that facebook as a platform is stagnant 01:08 <mariteaux>: but instagram is huge 01:09 <mariteaux>: and that's facebook 01:09 <dotcomboom>: oh yeah 01:09 <mariteaux>: so it's not even like they're any closer to irrelevance 01:10 <mariteaux>: i think my one hope is that people at least recognize that handing tons of data off to firms like this is a bad idea 01:10 <mariteaux>: maybe not everyone 01:10 <mariteaux>: but enough 01:10 <mariteaux>: that something's done about it 01:10 <mariteaux>: and i think that's happening 01:10 <mariteaux>: people were not happy about the nsa stuff 01:10 <mariteaux>: facebook has had tons of data breaches lately 01:13 <dotcomboom>: these companies are trying to become everything, that your life revolves around them 01:13 <mariteaux>: and in the short term, they're succeeding 01:14 <mariteaux>: but everything has an equal and opposite reaction 01:14 <mariteaux>: i think the existence of alt-tech sites like gab, minds, and bitchute show that people are willing to go to smaller, less intrusive platforms 01:18 <dotcomboom>: decentralized platforms are cool and good, but the only issue is that nothing is reversible 01:19 <dotcomboom>: so I think privacy might be a little more difficult 01:19 <mariteaux>: that's also true 01:19 <mariteaux>: i guess the only way to win is to not play 01:20 <mariteaux>: which is fine by me, i'm not a narcissist 01:20 <mariteaux>: i don't need people to stare at everything i'm doing like it's super important 01:21 <dotcomboom>: adding onto the decentralized point, if you sent a ton of bitcoins to someone accidentally (or an android wallet you're using is malicious and steals your money), good luck, you can't contact a company to sort it out 01:21 <mariteaux>: bitcoin is fucked 01:21 <mariteaux>: i doubt that'll ever catch on 01:22 <mariteaux>: you can use it for stuff, technically, but do you notice it's not a currency, it's an asset 01:22 <mariteaux>: people use bitcoin like gold 01:22 <dotcomboom>: nearly everything I see of it is just I N V E S T I N G ! 01:22 <mariteaux>: i doubt anyone will be able to pull a proper economy out of it 01:22 <dotcomboom>: it is a gold rush 01:22 <dotcomboom>: the price is fluctuating so much 01:22 <mariteaux>: not to mention, the miners fucking over the gpu market pissed a lot of people off 01:23 <dotcomboom>: ^ 01:23 <mariteaux>: memecoins do not have a good reputation right now 01:23 <mariteaux>: and i doubt they can crawl back to having even a scrap of one 01:23 <mariteaux>: okay, weird aside, but you know what i goddamn love 01:23 <dotcomboom>: joke cryptos were cool until they actually started getting value 01:24 <mariteaux>: feel it still by portugal the man, this fucking song is all about "fighting back" and it was absolutely huge 01:24 <mariteaux>: major corporations used it in ads 01:24 <mariteaux>: so much for "fighting back" 01:24 <dotcomboom>: *queue seinfeld theme* 01:24 <dotcomboom>: ironic 01:25 <mariteaux>: i think what a lot of people (i don't wanna say "our age" but we're both under 20, you know what i mean) don't realize that "fighting back" is the new mainstream 01:26 <mariteaux>: it's no longer counterculture 01:26 <mariteaux>: conformity is the new counterculture 01:26 <mariteaux>: not acting like a fucking freak 01:39 <dotcomboom>: internet of things 01:39 <dotcomboom>: scary 01:42 <mariteaux>: iot is a fancy name for botnet 01:42 <dotcomboom>: hackers getting into lights to mine batcoins 01:43 <dotcomboom>: and insecure baby monitors 01:46 <mariteaux>: nasty 01:46 <dotcomboom>: quite 01:46 <mariteaux>: i should get back to rendering out my quaddicted challenge demos 01:46 <mariteaux>: i've been avoiding it because it's a lot of heavy work with video settings 01:46 <mariteaux>: i notice i'm getting a lot of really dark maps and blocky footage 01:46 <mariteaux>: these are meant to be archival quality so that's not ideal 02:06 <dotcomboom>: brb switching clients 02:06 <-- dotcomboom has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:07 --> dotcomboom has joined #neocities 02:16 <mariteaux>: wb 02:16 * dotcomboom parties